And yet, out of the tens (possibly hundreds) of thousands of rounds that I have fired over an entire career in the Marines and coupled with my recreational shooting, the only primers that I have had fail are rimfires. One of those is the venerable .22 Magnum. That is substantially less than the average for the 9 mm Luger, at 0.55 inches, and the.45 ACP at 0.61 inches. Often overlooked and misunderstood, the .22 WMR is a serious 125-yard stopper for 2- to 20-pound critters and even larger game and varmints when a head shot is possible..22 WMR Vs. .17 HMR. By comparing how various .22 Magnum loads perform in ordnance gelatin with how other, more trusted, larger-caliber handgun loads perform, we can hypothesize on the fight-stopping potential of the round.Make no mistake, velocity matters when it comes to terminal performance. My old style Ruger single action was very accurate and at long distances. If meat destruction is a concern then by all means go to a .22 short. The Great Ammo Shortage of 2020: When Will It End? Incapacitation can be instant or it can take a long time.The third way handguns stop evil intent is through fear. The .22 WMR cartridge (far l.) compares favorably to 9 mm Luger (center) and .45 ACP (r.) with regard to penetration and velocity. The shot placement was meant wake you up that a slingshot can kill is the shot is in the right place. That is the common trend among everyone I gave ever talked to about ammo and every article that I have read. What animals can be killed with a 22? The cartridges and recovered bullets shown are (l. to r.): Remington 33-gr. All have been shot under very controlled circumstances, from rock solid rests at very close range. It’s also affordable, readily available and relatively easy to shoot.The .22 Magnum is just one of many cartridges that comes in handguns sized for personal protection or concealed carry. For my money, I wouldn’t trust a 9mm, even though it seems to pass the test here. If shot placement is important, and you can shoot with a modicum of skill (if you can't shoot with a modicum of skill, it really doesn't matter overmuch what you're shooting anyway), the .22 mag can put it … Instant involuntary incapacitation with any handgun is rare and, with a .22 Magnum damaging four times less tissue and hitting with about a quarter of the energy of a 9 mm or .45 ACP, I think it’s logical to assume involuntary incapacitation with a .22 Magnum cartridge is four times less likely to happen.But what if you can’t be concerned with such numbers? The goal is to make the bad guy stop doing bad things. A.22 Magnum will change the way you hunt squirrels and is coyote-capable out to 100 yards, with the proper bullet. If a shot is required, will the .22 Magnum be capable of causing enough pain to make the bad guy submit or voluntarily stop, and is it even capable of causing swift, involuntary incapacitation?Terminal ballistics testing in 10-percent ordnance gelatin is about the only way we can gauge the potential effectiveness of any cartridge. I believe it has great aplications especially when it comes to varmint hunting. Because Smith & Wessons expert hunters with their hard-hitting revolvers were able to bring down bears with a .357 Magnum, does that mean that your Scandium framed 2 snubnose with wussy off-the-shelf loads will be able to do the same? Can a 22 magnum kill a human? Originally designed for short-range encounters with large mammals, and, despite the shorter barrel length, can get the job done and place accurate shots in practiced hands. The .22 mag has essentially no recoil, but has similar performance as compared to its .38 cousin. The Savage 42 .22 mag over 410 is a sweet gun. shoot for the shoulder. At some point (sooner rather than later) you are going to encounter primers that do not ignite on the first try. Developed by in 1959 by Winchester, for their Model 61 pump rifle, the .22 Winchester Magnum, also called .22 WMR or Winchester Magnum Rimfire was a rimfire round that was designed for small game. Plus the price to shoot them and buy one right now is out of the question because both me and my sister are in college and my other three siblings are in school so we can't afford one. The.22 WMR can effectively kill small game such as rabbits, hares, groundhogs, prairie dogs, foxes, raccoons, and coyotes. To subscribe to the magazine, visit the NRA membership page here and select American Rifleman as your member magazine. Reactions: LongRider, larryp, DocRob and 5 others. Answer #25 | 26/09 2016 20:13 Any caliber can kill. USA -(Ammoland.com)- In this day and age of high-velocity small-bore rifle cartridges that have speeds advertised as almost capable of breaking the space-time continuum, older and slower rounds, while dependable are often shoved aside as being obsolete. What if a .22 Magnum is all you have? I support the decision to forego the 22 mag for the 223 but get a good idea of its capabilities. One of the reasons to have a survival round is that you want to be able to shoot game with it and that includes small-game, and while you might get some bloodshot meat on a squirrel or a rabbit with the .22 Magnum, that cannot compare to the damage of a higher velocity .223. The comment made above about the .22 mag being fired out of a Ruger 10/22, got me a little stumped. My 10/22 will not accept the .22 WRF, either in the chamber or in the magazine. When fired from a gun with a 1" barrel, both the Hornady Critical Defense (bottom) and Speer Gold Dot .22 WMR loads showed only minimal expansion and penetrated to identical depths in 10-percent ordnance gelatin. There are a variety of rounds out there, everything from a 30 grain V-Max with a muzzle velocity of 2,200 fps to a slew of 40-grain bullets like the soft-jacketed point, jacketed hollow point, and full metal jacket, all averaging around 1,900 fps. Anything from the muzzle to 100 yards was DOA. Lv 6. It sucked for accuracy. At 25 yards the Henry put out a three-shot group of only ¾” with the factory open sights, and the Crickett with the same ammo shot a one-inch group. full metal jacket or common hollow point, which should penetrate slightly deeper.Here’s another consideration. … The .22 long rifle (and/or maybe the .22 mag) is probably one of the more efficient cartridges for the ultimate SHTF disaster weapon. To answer this question, we need to keep things in perspective. The 22 magnum is legal to use for whitetail here in Maine and I've shot quite a few deer with mine. David has been writing articles about firearms, hunting and western history for ten years. From a .45 ACP, the average muzzle velocity is almost 1,000 fps. by Richard Mann -
The deer had been shot in the head from about 15 yards away. I think I shot maybe two boxes in the last 5 years? No problem for a magnum. Four and five inch “groups” at 25 yards. Shooting Winchester 40 grain jacketed hollow points. With the .22 Magnum, velocity is just as, if not more, important because of its relatively small bullet. Winchester began marketing the rimfire cartridge back in the 1960’s, though Marlin had the first rifle capable of chambering the new round. Barkeep Revolver, © 2020 National Rifle Association of America. It does not replicate skin, ribs, cartilage or fat and, in fact, very often the way a bullet performs in living tissue is quite different than how it performs in gelatin. I own an on the farm slaughter business and my go to rifle is a Ruger 77/22 chambered in.22 Mag. As for being able to bring about voluntary submission, it’s anybody’s guess how this cartridge should be rated; we simply cannot predict psychological reactions. The firing “pin” (blade, actually) in a Ruger 10/22 can get jammed up with carbon and unburned powder if the gun isn’t cleaned at least every once in a while. I took small critters at 100yds on several occasions. If a bullet doesn’t penetrate enough to reach the good stuff – central nervous system, heart, major blood vessels – it won’t get the job done, which is at least stopping the bad guy, if not actually killing him in… Read more ». 4 years ago. Generally 1-2%, across a variety of manufacturers. The 22 magnum is legal to use for whitetail here in Maine and I've shot quite a few deer with mine. Positive: 51.515151515152 %. It … It might not be as cheap as it once was but I can still find a box of fifty rounds for about $15 or so. [citation needed] The relatively quiet report and negligible recoil also make it a very pleasant target and plinking round to shoot for extended periods. It is a rimfire round. jhp. The .22 Magnum still had more smack than those original .17 HMR cartridges did. But what about the other parts? Until Trump got in.Now the 22 mag are $11.99 for 50 rounds.I was paying $20.00… Read more ». One cheap .22 cal LR round. Interestingly, if we average the penetration of the .22 Magnum loads tested from handguns with barrels ranging from 1" to 4.5", we find they penetrated to just over 12". With that in mind, I conducted a series of tests with various .22 Magnum loads fired from barrels as short as 1" to as long as 22". While the .22 WMR Magnum might not be the fastest and most glamorous round out there it does make a very decent all-around survival round in a rifle. For those who want to carry the smallest handgun possible, the North American Arms Mini Revolvers, which weigh less than 6 ozs. The .22 Magnum is drastically handicapped by power and energy—energy that’s needed to push through clothing, ribs and muscle. I’ll shoot you in the head since yer only 12 feet away anyway. As amazing as it may seem to kill a bear w/ .22, there is a story about an old indian gentleman that went on a buffalo hunt armed with a .22 rifle. .357 magnum? Shame too since it’s got just that little bit more… Read more ». To really get down to the nitty-gritty of this comparison, let’s briefly take a look at each of these rimfire cartridges’ history. I use the traditional 40 grain same as always. Sine the .22 caliber rifle isn’t as powerful as larger hunting rifles, it can only be used for hunting game animals. Probably not. It was also clear from the results, with the exception of four loads; Hornady’s Critical Defense, Speer’s Gold Dot, Winchester’s PDX1 and the somewhat surprising CCI TNT load, no other .22 Magnum load will expand from a handgun. is more effective at stopping bad guys than .38 Spl. That means they can eat you. A .22 can be stopped by thick clothing. after reading this article i went out and bought two 50 round boxes of 22 mag 50 grain. A compact and light handgun like Ruger’s 16-ounce LCRx is a perfect example of a carry-size .22 Magnum revolver. No matter what you can do, he can do it better. TNT. These six .22 WMR loads were fired into a block of 10 percent ordnance gelatin from a 1"-barreled North American Arm revolver. On a recent hunt in northern Alaska, I asked a local Inuit what cartridge he preferred for caribou. First, the cartridge will kill most small animals and many larger animals under special circumstances, though it is certainly not recommended for hunting anything larger than a jackrabbit. What Animals Can You Hunt With A .22 Caliber Rifle Sine the .22 caliber rifle isn’t as powerful as larger hunting rifles, it can only be used for hunting game animals. as for rimfire failing to go off it has never happened to me (yet), I am 67 and have owned a rimfire since I was twelve. I’ll stack the .22 mag up against the 7.62×39 for primer failures anytime. The Crickett was slightly better, but just with a pretty broad group opening up. Seeing the 5 shallow divots left by 9 mm ammo along with 20 nice, clean holes all he way through the plate might change a man’s mind. Even a 22 short can do it like nothing. Yea with the proper shot. 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NO, use a bigger caliber and make a humane kill on the animal. A.22LR is more than enough bullet that, if it hits a vital structure, can bring about incapacitation or death. Winchester’s Model 61, a pump-action rifle, came along in 1960 and became a great gun to have around for small game and vermin. But, if that was to happen you'd be hard pressed to get a good shot in and I'd rather have at least a .357 mag. That being said, .22 WMR bullets are substantially smaller and lighter than their full-size competitors. Both are great for plunking. Even though the CCI TNT load expanded well in every test, the muzzle flash from it and the other loads was like a fireball. Experts in the field recommend a 12-gauge pump-action shotgun loaded with at least 5 rounds of magnum 00 buckshot. In those instances, it’s the involuntary incapacitation that must be relied upon. This method keeps my 22 practice @200 rounds for $4 … Read an article where Argentine guys were killing pumas with 22 mag. Federal Premium Sets Record Straight On Ammunition Shortage, In Country: Small Arms of the Vietnam War, World War II German Sniper Systems: Rifles, Optics & Ammo, New for 2021: Heritage Mfg. Of course, under ideal conditions — like those the cull hunters try to create or when animals are smaller-bodied — almost any round, including the .22 rimfires, can deliver a killing shot. Wish I had a URL for the photo Oleg Volk posted of that 1/4″ thick aluminum plate. For a self defense round, that lack of reliability is a game ender. 4 years ago. I’ve given it up since the shortage. A .22 Magnum will change the way you hunt squirrels and is coyote-capable out to 100 yards, with the proper bullet. One persistent and long-standing rumor about the .22 Magnum is that it is not very accurate compared to other rimfire rounds like the .22 Long Rifle and the .17 HMR and that has some truth to it. Does shooting a 22lr cartridge in a firearm designed for the 22 Magnum round cause any problems? Privacy Policy • Contact Us • Warnings • FAQs • © 2020 National Rifle Association of America. In many ways, it does surpass the .22 WMR, but in one important area, especially to hunters, … A .22 has had some documented kills. and i don’t even know how much 22 mag ammo i have? The revolver I bought for my wife but have conficated because it shoots so well. The airgun in the video was not 22 caliber. Ill take a .22Mag over a 5.7 for many reasons. You go on and on about shot placement, though I never mentioned it, then a single sentence that says that my argument fails because….reasons? I’m glad to see the PD rounds pop up, but for me the Hornady V-Max was my Volquartzen rifle’s ‘go to’ round as it gave me half inch groups @100. It’s why .357 Mag. i read about it and it has more stopping power so will see what happens? Back in the early 50’s I purchased a New Marlin 22 Mag with a scope for, believe it or not $37.00. Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program. 1 0. What ammunition should you choose for a .22 Magnum defensive handgun if that’s what you are going to carry?Based on the testing I conducted, two things were obvious: Barrels of about an inch in length did not generate enough velocity for reliable expansion with most .22 Magnum loads. A solid point .22 mag out of a 4" revolver right in the head might kill or stun a large animal chewing on your leg. Wednesday, June 17, 2020. I can load my 9mm for five cents a round and have many thousands of those rounds and the ability to load many thousands more. Anonymous. A 40-grain bullet from the little rimfire with a muzzle velocity of 1,900 fps has 325 ft. Lbs of muzzle energy. Quality .22 WMR ammo has never failed to go “bang” when I’ve pulled the trigger on it, in a small variety of guns, both hand and shoulder arms. Positive: 51.515151515152 %. Lv 6. But, again, does that make it an appropriate choice for a self-defense caliber? A 22 will kill about anything within reason depending on where the shot is placed but hunting a deer with a 22LR will get you in deep manure with the law. That comes up to five cents a round. I dont have anything bigger than a .22 mag in the terms of rifles because you can't use a centerfire on anything in ohio besides varmints, so we never got one. Unlike the relationship between the .38 Special and the original Magnum handgun round—the .357 Magnum—the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR) is not simply a stretched version of the earlier .22 LR cartridge. Still, as a deterrent, it’s probably as effective as anything else. Nevertheless, Winchester soon manufactured the Model 61 to handle their new proprietary ammo, followed by models from Ruger, Savage Arms, and Smith & Wesson. Actually, statistics—if you can trust statistics—support the hypothesis that it’s the fear of getting or having been shot that most often leads to a fight being stopped. Law-enforcement personnel will tell you that they point guns at bad guys much more often than they shoot them. The rifles in .22 Magnum seem to be most sensitive when it comes to which ammunition and which it will shoot accurately. Gold Dot and CCI 30-gr. Tactically a 3 tap from a 22 is a kill. Save Share. He or she can be merciless in defending turf or litter, and may just kill you for kicks. The caliber choices in .22 S/L/LR and .22 Magnum lets you take the trail that works best for you, whether it’s the humble shoot-all-day-long .22 Long Rifle or the energy-boosting .22 Magnum. 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