:). Some 200 yards from the ship Tomiyasu flipped the Zeke over in a left-hand snap roll to steepen the dive and struck the flight deck at an angle of about 45°, just abaft the forward elevator at frame 42, slightly to port of the centerline. They captured and interrogated the two men, and then embarked them on board victualling stores ship Chichibu Maru for a voyage to a prison camp in Japan. The explosion started a small fire, destroyed three Zeros parked astern, and wrecked her arresting wire. (Naval History and Heritage Command Photograph NH 52687), A Curtiss SBC-3 of VS-6 flying from Enterprise swoops dangerously low past Mustin (DD-413) during maneuvers in the Pacific, 26 May 1940. With respect, there was more depth and variety of houses in Berman Trek than there is in Discovery. Spoilers for the Star Trek: Discovery Season 3 finale, “That Hope Is You, Part 2” past this point. This Star Trek artwork was posted with permission of the artist. In DS9 and ENT, they revisited the TOS âPrimeâ Timeline/Universe and didnât change any visual aesthetics and the current technology of the 1990âs & 2000âs was way more advanced than it was in the 1960âs. At least the Kelvin timeline movies established a reason for the differences between it and the original. The crash severely injured Teaff, who lost his right eye, but he survived, though his gunner, RM3c Jinks, died. As the pilots climbed wearily from their cramped cockpits they told of unbelievable opposition, of skies choked with antiaircraft shell bursts and tracers.â. A VS-10 SBD-3, Lt. Cmdr. The Hellcatâs blazing tail remained on deck and a hose team swiftly extinguished the fire on the tail and the flight deck in the area with water and foam. In addition, Japanese planes attacked the ships and Hellcats of VF-20 from Enterprise and VF-32 on board Langley (CVL-27) shot down two Bettys in separate duels during the 2nd dog watch on 13 October, and the CAP splashed six low flying Bettys and Francesâ. In addition, the seizure of the islands protected the northern flank of the Allied line of advance from the Central Pacific to the Philippines, toward which the amphibious forces of the Southwest Pacific also thrust. Given that we’ve seen pull-out shots right from the Discovery’s bridge window, it shouldn’t be too hard to get some min/max on the size. âWith props turning and strong prop wash and the danger of whirling blades in crowded quarters,â Lt. Cmdr. Two days later the Hellcats disrupted an enemy attack during the first air battle of its type, and the men involved nicknamed themselves the âBat Teamâ. The pilots survived but both of the gunners died, and some of their squadron mates surmised that their breast plate armor may have hindered them from bailing out. A pair of Japanese Mitsubishi G3M3 Type 96s swooped in for a second attack against the ship at 1557, each dropping two bombs off the starboard bow. Cmdr. Vice Adm. Brownâs TF 11, including Lexington, supported the raid from the vicinity of Christmas Island. But it was clearly a one time nostalgia thing. That number came from Star Trek: Discovery The Official Starships Collection, published by Eaglemoss. An Enterprise that no matter what version of ST you may have seen a few episodes of you knew this was “The Enterprise”. Happy for you that you’re stuck in the past, but I prefer the future … you know like Gene Roddenberry? (Naval History and Heritage Command Photograph NH 50949), This view shows some of the 20 millimeter guns being installed at Pearl Harbor Navy Yard, 19 March 1942. live long and prosper toilet coffin spaceship. Percy W. Forman and AVMM2c John E. Winchester of VS-6. The sooner Trek fans hung up on the look of a TV show from the 1960s drop off the franchise, the better for the future of the franchise. Richard F. Whitehead relieved Short in command of the Enterprise Air Group on 26 June 1939. While we can’t settle any of those debates today, certainly not before we see what they’re planing to do with the Enterprise in season two, we can do what Trekkies do best, which is to analyze the new “Disco” design of the most famous ship in the Star Trek franchise. The airplanes then began searching for Ranger, which steamed approximately 100 miles from the main body, but Ranger used an experimental high-frequency direction finding system and detected Enterprise, and threw Vought SB2U-1s of VB-3 and Vought SBU-1s of VS-41 and VS-42 that, in barely two hours smothered the shipâs defenses and sent her to the bottom. The sea was smooth but the horizon extremely dark as the Dauntless attempted to land but missed the flight deck, crashed into the starboard walkway, and went over the side. Several fragments rained down on the forecastle but did not inflict damage. The plane, engine, and bomb punched a hole roughly 12 feet long by 20 feet wide through the flight deck. A moderate swell from the windâs direction stirred an otherwise slight sea. Rough seas and infrequent rain squalls impeded both sides as they searched for each other on 21 February. Land attack planes of the 751st KÅkÅ«tai attacked the retiring task force on 30 January, and Enterprise, which steamed to the south of the fighting, launched F4F-4s of VF-10 to intercept the attackers. The producers probably have a mandate from CBS to make the show actually look different and actually modern from the old show. The crash and explosion hurled the forward elevator into the air, and pulled away the decking from the main supporting framework. I know the producers said they plan to ‘reconcile’ the two but lets be honest outside of throwing in a reference here and there to TOS this is just a very different universe visually and it would feel lame if everything reverted to TOS by the end. I thought it was a disimprovement to the bridge, myself. The aircraft climbed slowly to 22,500 feet and maneuvered while they waited for the torpedo planes to catch-up, but the second trio of Devastators failed to sight the attack group and the attack force continued past the cruisers, which they also failed to spot up sun and at maximum altitude. I may be a canon thumper but somebody has to be. Capt. Vice Adm. Robert L. Ghormley, Commander South Pacific Force, led the landings, and Vice Adm. Fletcher acted as the OTC. The devastation from the raiders and the minefields denied the harbor to the enemy for an estimated six weeks. For those who may be unaware, the filming model for The Original Series’ USS Enterprise looked somewhat different in the first pilot “The Cage.” It was updated again for the second pilot, “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” and was then more dramatically re-worked a third time when the show was picked up for series. This even explains why Worf said the topic was a shameful taboo. The Dauntlesses scored a single hit and two near misses on Akagi, the hit likely made by Best himself. Wilmer E. Rawie, tangled with a pair of Mitsubishi A5M4 Type 96 carrier fighters of the Chitose KÅkÅ«tai (Air Group), flown by Lt. Kurakane Yoshio and PO3c Atake Tomita. The cruisers turned to starboard in an apparent attempt to head downwind, but two bombs slammed into Mogami, one forward of the bridge and another amidships on the aircraft deck. Harold B. Sallada, Commander Support Aircraft, who assumed control of Target Combat Air Patrol â a task previously vested in carriers. For “The Cage” there was no internal lighting to the model at all. A destroyer shot down Cmdr. 18 Shinsei Maru, Raizan Maru, and Ryuko Maru; guardboats Ibaraki Maru and No. It isn’t James Bond. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp or the “Star Trek” franchise. Yeah they placed the show in the past (relatively speaking) then refused to adhere to the proper look in any way. I would like to see the FX shots cleaned up and the ship lighting improved in the next season to really bring it all together. Itâs just notâand that would be fine that it is not. Bell P-400 Airacobras of the USAAFâs 67th Fighter Squadron joined the marines on 22 August. Both ships are restricted to combat within the Solar System. I-74 rescued No. Canvas partitions sufficed to replace demolished joiner bulkheads in the officersâ country forward until permanent repairs could be made the following summer. ... Click on images to download star trek uss enterprise STL files for your 3D Printer. Despite the steadfast efforts of the Wildcats and the intense antiaircraft fire, the Japanese planes struck Enterprise twice. And you’re upset the Enterprise had its pylons changed? ), A Japanese Nakajima B5N2 Type 97 carrier attack plane hurtles past South Dakota during the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands, 26 October 1942. Firefighters steadfastly plied water on to the conflagrations, brought the hangar deck, plane, and elevator pit fires under control in 15 minutes, and completely extinguished the fires by 0730. 1, against Allied ships operating off Okinawa. Thomas C. Durkin, USNR, and AM2c E.C. I guess the Augment virus magically disappeared or was cured since Enterprise. Dickinson parachuted to safety but Miller died. Enterprise, Arizona (BB-39), Nevada (BB-36), and Oklahoma (BB-37), screened by cruisers and destroyers, meanwhile stood down the channel from Pearl Harbor. It’s posh, but also strangely gritty as well. Enterprise then continued eastward to Majuro, where she anchored on 4 May. They shifted their strikes to the Manila area and central Luzon and sank light cruiser Kiso, destroyers Akebono, Akishimo, Hatsuharu, and Okinami, and 20 merchant and auxiliary ships (13â14 November). Hardison instituted a policy of keeping only one weekâs supply of inflammable materials above the waterline. I would love to see the bridge layout to be just like the original but with updated more modern accompaniments. If that’s true, you should probably get out now. Probably much better. Norman D. Hodson, took off to fly an inner air patrol during the morning watch on 21 February, the Wildcat suffered propeller pitch control problems, and, unable to gain enough air speed, went over the side. The following month the detachment carried out exercises in Hawaiian waters. She may not look like much but she’s got it where it counts. Nimitz ordered the available fighters on the island to rise and intercept the raiders, and for the bombers to attack the enemy carriers. Osborne B. Hardison, the shipâs commanding officer, heeled Enterprise over to avoid the attacks, but 19 D3A1 Type 99 carrier bombers from ShÅkaku, led by Group Leader Lt. Cmdr. So there’s no in-universe reason to add the extended “lip” detail, it seems gratuitous. Navy and marine F4F-4 Wildcats tangled with Mitsubishi A6M2 Type 0 carrier fighters flying from Rabaul in duels over Guadalcanal. 4522) of VB-6 over Taroa, and a TBD-1 (BuNo. 21 Nanshin Maru by gunfire, and No. Despite the vagueness of his message, winds from the southeast prevailed and the American ships steamed to the southeast, which indicated that they likely comprised at least one or more carriers launching aircraft. I hope that everyone who is gnashing their teeth over this can eventually find peace. Re: Discovery uniforms are NOTHING like the Cage ones. No one at the time EVER thought they would do another show or film based on that era. Enterprise and Yorktown launched SBC-3s and O3U-3s from flight deck and hangar deck catapults on 4 August. But the old stupid crap was good because it was your stupid crap. Enterprise circled north of the Marshalls in order to launch a strike against shipping and shore installations on Kwajalein, and returned to Pearl Harbor on 9 December, her air group flying ashore to NAS Barbers Point. During the afternoon and 1st dog watches, Hellcats flying CAP and antiaircraft fire from ships steaming in the vicinity splashed five more enemy airplanes near Enterprise. The refit also introduced a number of extra spot lights to better show the hull texture and the Starfleet identification markings in the darkness of space. And now they had money for fancy sleek consoles and such! A trio of Black heavy cruisers thus slipped past the aircraft and attacked the convoy. Enterprise took part in the secret mission and prepared by training her newer pilots north of the Hawaiian Islands (27 March and 1â3 April). I have made this argument why going back in time to see the Enterprise in 1960s form WORKED in DS9 for example because they did everything to keep that universe in tact like the actual show. Savage of VT-20 during one of the raids, and as he attempted to return to Enterprise a Zeke suddenly made a pass at the bomber but then broke off the attack and the Avenger successfully recovered on board. Star Trek did not deserve that much control over my feelings. . Granat. Just under an hour later two other scouts, Lt. Stockton B. The science in Star Trek has always been lame. The Navy subsequently selected the names Yorktown and Enterprise for Carrier Nos. Itâs not canon or primeâitâs a reimagined seriesâplain and simple. Let me just say, I agree that these Klingons donât match at all, and they havenât even tried to address it. Enterprise shifted from TF 16 to TF 15 on 15 March, the latter force being dissolved at the end of April. They also nailed the phasers & communicators. John F. Richey, sighted a submarine and dropped bombs that splashed close aboard but the boat crash-dived. Zoe, you have stopped watching the series. Upon completing the strike on Truk, Rear Adm. John W. Reeves led a small force including Enterprise that separated from the main body and launched two air strikes on Jabor and Enybor at Jaluit on 20 February. The Americans lost five planes but claimed to destroy 55 enemy aircraft and sank cargo ship Tateyama Maru, auxiliary submarine chaser No. The plane dropped a 1,000 pound bomb that exploded close aboard amidships, the blast throwing several of the submarineâs gunners overboard. The crew of the carrier battled the damage with heroic determination. Suzuki plummeted into the sea 200 yards beyond South Dakota. TF 17 sailed ten miles to the southwest of TF 16. Gilzer L. Sims. During the afternoon watch, Hornet launched the Mitchells, piloted by Lt. John E. Fitzgerald, USAAF, and Lt. James F. McCarthy, USAAF, to the surprise and amazement of the ships company, as security precautions prevented most of the men from knowing the meaning of the experiment, and returned to Norfolk Navy Yard for repairs and alterations. LOL can we split hairs any more than this? No, of course you don’t. Practically speaking, 50 years on from the original, it’s perfectly acceptable to say, ‘it’s got to be recognizable as the Enterprise, but also has to make sense within our contemporary production design.’ This ship, even briefly glimpsed as it is, fits with what we’ve seen so far. They then flew to Ford Island, where, despite being restricted from liberty, appreciated catching-up on their sleep. Rear Adm. Raymond A. Spruance commanded TG 8.1, consisting of Northampton, Salt Lake City, and Dunlap, and shelled Wotje. 3916), Ens. Dixon received the Navy Cross for his âextraordinary heroism, exceptional determination, resourcefulness, skilled seamanship, excellent judgment and highest quality of leadershipâ in this epic of survival. So sorry your dependence on visual canon upsets your enjoyment of an otherwise entertaining chapter in the Star Trek franchise. Sailors sighted yet another torpedo as it raced past barely 20 yards astern of Enterprise at 0900 on 11 December, just missing the ship, and destroyers depth charged the intruder but she escaped. Edwin J. Kroeger, USNR, and Ens. You all built the models, use all the structural integrety fields you want, those nacelles were a pain in the ass and would fall of with a touch… there simply wasn’t enough thought put into actual engineering. Sano Takao in command, lurked about four miles southwest of Diamond Head on 9 December when Sano reported a U.S. carrier âenteringâ Pearl Harbor as Enterprise slipped past and edged her way out to the Pacific. I understand what they were trying to do and why, and I realize it took them a lot of well-intentioned work, but I just can’t bring myself to appreciate it. One of the Japanese planes returned, apparently to strafe the ship. They turned left and attacked South Dakotaâs starboard side at 1148. It would make it very awkward for going forward and doing anything new with Worfâs character, especially if they ever revisit TNG. The carrier celebrated Independence Day at San Francisco, Calif., along with the Golden Gate International Exposition, which commemorated the opening of the Golden Gate Bridge and the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge, and was held at Treasure Island. You are either lying or you’re a troll. HiryÅ« launched 18 Aichi D3A1 Type 99 carrier bombers that damaged Yorktown, however, and at 1315 Fletcher transferred his flag to Astoria, and turned over tactical command to Spruance. 2 elevator, putting the elevator out of commission and starting a small fire. I like your 220m figure -- it would seem really odd to me if the Discovery was longer than the Enterprise E. The men of VF-6 in particular, who had hosted the marines during the voyage, felt pride in the Leathernecksâ valiant defense. Over the years, the original Star Trek episodes have taken their fair share of jabs, due in part to the many cheesy looking aliens the shows have had. Four battleships, seven cruisers, and 18 destroyers steaming in three concentric circular patterns at one mile ranges protected the ship with their antiaircraft guns. On 15 July Enterprise set a course for Tongatabu in the Tonga Islands, the staging area for Watchtower. A 2250s Enterprise with NX-01 style nacelles and angled pylons, and a bridge window? 4. Nemo’s ship puttee fear into the Federation because of its size and destructive power, accounting for more resources being devoted to the possibility that it was a seeker ship in our area with a possible armada waiting just somewhere outside of the Federation space. The pilot closed the throttle and the arresting gear stopped the Vought, and although the two crewmen escaped unscathed, their aircraft required considerable repairs. @nytehawk — nope, they were always bald, it just didn’t appear that way in the television episode you were watching. John M. Higgins, and Maury, Lt. Cmdr. The gunfire downed four of the F4F-3A Wildcats. A U.S. airplane flying from Midway had photographed Wake following the Japanese conquest and provided Halsey a glimpse of the enemyâs preparations since their landings. Agreed, but the hunk of junk Falcon isn’t supposed to be pretty. While Enterprise turned to port, the other aircraft, a Zeke, dived on the port quarter, struck and carried away the sponsons of 40 millimeter mounts Nos. I don’t think that they have to explain the klingons. Amari experienced an eventful flight because he reported (separately) sighting two American submarines, and then at 0720 discovered Enterprise, Hornet, and their screen, which he reported as âwhat appears to beâ ten ships, steering 150° at more than 20 knots. It’s a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away for the narrator of the story and it’s not supposed to be neither an earthling (or terran) nor a milkywayan (lol). Aircraft also dropped leaflets containing a personal message from Halsey to the Japanese garrison that read (in Japanese): âIt is a pleasure to thank you for having your patrol plane not sight my force.â Japanese submarines I-9, I-15, I-17, I-19, and I-25 dived more than 100 feet to the bottom and escaped the attack. 3 Chinyo Maru, No. Itâs okay if they want to focus on newer viewers and disregard hardcore fansâbut donât disrespect the hardcore fans by invalidating their concernsâafter all they are the ones that got us hereâkept Trek alive for over 50 years. Not sure what you mean, but the policy of canon has been clearly defined, and what is shown on screen, is canon, set in the prime universe unless otherwise indicated. Knox briefly transferred to light cruiser Boise (CL-47) on 9 September but returned to the carrier. (j.g.) It would have been nice if they’d used the larger version, but again, the iconic design is the series filming model, which they’ve stayed pretty true to in this area of the ship. As an experimental science vessel with only two of the type known (why no mention ever of the U.S.S. The carriers fought in three groups. âThe conduct of the officers and men of the Shipâs Company was exemplary,â Cmdr. Adm. Richardson, now Commander in Chief, U.S. Fleet, also broke his flag in the carrier for a trial period. 1 Miho Maru and No. One of these airplanes, flown by Ens. (Naval History and Heritage Command Photograph NH 54223), Shellbacks initiate polywogs into the mysteries of King Neptuneâs realm as the ship crosses the equator, 20 August 1938. The ship lost a fighter shot down during the strike, and another Hellcat, a Dauntless, and four Avengers that ditched, though destroyers rescued all of the ditched crewmen. She is probably the most well known âcharacterâ from Star Trek. Some of the men believed that they arrived in the midst of a surprise drill and wondered how they would land through the shell bursts, and then Japanese pilots sighted and attacked the Enterprise planes. While they flew en route some of the men sighted the smoke rising from the three stricken Japanese carriers. Compare to the prequel trilogy, where we span approximately 23 years from 32 BBY (The Phantom Menace), to 22 BBY (Attack of the Clones) to approximately 19 BBY (Revenge of the Sith; birth of Luke and Leia), where we see designs evolve from the handcrafted N-1 starfighters to the pointy Delta-7 Jedi starfighters, to the multi-finned Eta-2 interceptors, which are ancestors to the TIE fighter. While not exactly the same, you can see the Discovery impulse engines have three segments on each side. Enterprise completed an overhaul at Puget Sound Navy Yard at Bremerton, Wash. (21 Februaryâ28 May â carrying out the work from 25 Februaryâ24 May). I guess I should’ve said advanced and stylistic which is what I really meant. Maybe it didn’t have to be post-Voyager but as many said post-TUC would even feel a bit better and some of the technology could feel like its catching up to TNGs time although in this show a lot of it is more advance than that time as well. George S. Clute of VP-11, reported sighting Japanese ships about 300 miles northwest of TF 61, just a minute past midnight on 26 October. Gotcha. The ship returned from the second voyage to Tompkinsville on northeastern Staten Island, N.Y., on the bitterly cold morning of Christmas Eve. 4542) of VB-6, Ens. As much as I appreciate the original Enterprise, the neck has always too long and too thin; subsequent designs have tended to shorten and thicken it, which makes the ship look sturdier and tougher, so that is consistent with the Discovery design theme. Toneâs No. ), Adm. Nimitz awards Lt. Cmdr. During the forenoon watch on 22 August, Enterprise detected a snooper on her radar, attempted to vector her CAP toward the intruder, and scrambled a dozen alert Wildcats one of which, F-4, Lt. Albert O. Vorse Jr., aided by his wingman Ens. In addition, their intelligence analysts thought that they had so seriously damaged Yorktown that she would be out of action for months, but the Americans hastily, if not completely, repaired the carrier in time for the battle. That said, the Crossfield class is listed with a compliment of 136, but amazingly a length of 750.50 meters. That afternoon Nautilus attacked Kaga but her torpedoes failed to explode, and the carrier finally sank later that evening. One conclusion upon which our different approaches do converge, once you demonstrate, as you have, that you know nothing about costuming, fashion styles and their differences, it’s time to move on, as you clearly know nothing about that upon which you seek to pontificate. When Japanese aggression had increasingly threatened the Pacific Rim in 1938, a committee under Rear Adm. Arthur J. Hepburn, then commandant of the Twelfth Naval District, had investigated possible naval base sites on the coasts of the United States, its territories, and possessions. While we do have modern-day productions of old plays, we also have plenty of modernized versions. (j.g.) Re: During the Cage era they wore essentially the same uniforms. Saratoga made for Oahu and then for repairs and modernization at Puget Sound, and her departure temporarily reduced U.S. fleet carrier strength in the Pacific to three ships, compelling the Navy to distribute her air group among the other carriers. Enterprise and Yorktown (separately) covered the convoy and then came about. Japanese resistance, reinforcements of enemy aircraft staged through Luzon, and torrential monsoon rains that turned the ground into a muddy quagmire and washed out bridges, delayed constructing airfields on Leyte. One big unanswered question… How *big* is Discovery’s Enterprise? Even modern day satphones, which communicate via moving satellites in orbit, are bulkier than the compact smartphone whose small size fascinates you so. Why would a refit make the ship look older and crappier? Dana, you deserve a medal. THAT is what they should have done starting with the Next Generation… the nostalgia was great, but it set forth this argument and put a silly 60’s shoestring budget, embarrassingly retro set as canon for a show set 300 years in the future.
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