IANAL, or even a Canadian, but even I can see that there IS NO TRIAL WITHOUT THE CHIEF JUSTICE.Leave aside that Leahy is the hack's hack and always has been, if they proceed it's just more confirmation that the helm is in the hands of self-absorbed nincompoops who make it up as they stumble along.NarrAnd with that, to bed. "That's it. Either he presides or he has to state on the record his refusal and the grounds therefor. Instead, Senator Patrick Leahy, the Senate President Pro Tempore, will handle the Chief Justice's duties. I don’t think you should construe the constitution in a way that makes it incoherent when there is a way to read it as coherent. In person learning for children characterized as ‘racism toward Black and Brown families’, Nancy Pelosi Planning a Coup? But he refuses to do so, because he's a RINO and hates Trump. (I believe art 1 sec 6? Trump's attorneys will not offer a defense against the pathetically weak charge of inciting insurrection. "Left Bank of the Charles said..."Trump can still be removed from the Office of Former President . Another explanation would be that, while the Senate may or may not have jurisdiction to try former presidents (and while this itself may be a question for the Senate, rather than the judiciary, to decide), the Chief's role is restricted to trials of current presidents. It is something slightly above average IQ but still thoroughly mediocre intellects typically do. Good Lord. Further, section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution prohibits any person who has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against" the United States from "hold[ing] and office ... under the United States.' They believe in their misguided frenzy that this will remove the blot, the stain, the exceeding dark mist of Trump. So, is CNN lying? The only question is whether 17 R traitors will join them. "Will Leahy be costumed in his horned animal skin shaman outfit? Assuming conviction, Roberts would have to recuse himself from any review by SCOTUS. Scene one was the bizarre parade of black-masked democrat politicians solemnly marching over to the Senate. Can you say fraudulent? The fact is, I'm angry. I really do believe now that Pelosi & Schumer are insane, or at least so deeply into dementia as to be not of sound mind. The Court would probably say that’s a political question beyond its jurisdiction. If the reason the Chief Justice is the judge is because it would be a conflict of interest for the President’s Vice President to be the judge then why couldn’t Kamala Harris be the judge? Democrats will call any defense of Trump at this "trial" sedition. If Trump is convicted, would he lose his perks as ex-President? The SCOTUS doesn't get involved in deciding what's a "High Crime and Misdemeanor". Biskupic writes: Since the US House of Representatives impeached Trump on January 13, Roberts has declined multiple requests for comment on his responsibility, if any, for a trial after Trump left office on January 20. "So, the idea is that Trump can no longer be a former president. The Article of impeachment was not executed until tonight. Like when the last time we had a Democrat President with all those 'signing statements' and such. To bad for said schmuck, the riot was planned in the weeks leading up to January 6th. I think the answer is yes, and gave reasons, Inga gave a link to a longer argument. They intend to kneel on the necks of the Deplorables and impose their socialist paradise on all of us.I suppose some will find it boring. Why it matters: ... Everyone endorsing this process of using an impeachment against someone after they leave office is endorsing an endless tit for tat based upon which political party holds power. The first is whether Trump is guilty. He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol, such as: "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." PLEASE do NOT engage this boob.You will have destroyed the discussion if you do. "The Constitution is (theoretically) the be all and end all. They're going to get together and declare him guilty and try to bar him from ever running for office again. They want to push the window, so they impeach, thinking all the same characters will go along as they did a year ago. BTW, its funny how everyone, especially the News Media, starts with the assumption that every fucking Democrat will vote guilty - no matter what. “I actually think much of what is driving it is, I think, John despises Donald Trump,” Sen. Ted Cruz told CBN. Amazing that they got the text of the Constitution wrong.The Article of Impeachment has been delivered to the Senate. Resolution impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.Resolved, the Donald John Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following article of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:Article of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.ARTICLE 1: INCITEMENT OF INSURRECTIONThe Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" and that the President "shall be removed from Office on Impeachment, for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." It's the Senate's ceremony. In Free Enter. It is a fair question whether or not Trump fits the definition of a President who is being tried by the Senate since he is only a former President.Trump is factually a private citizen, making ANY trial a bill of attainder.The actual bill of impeachment refers to "President Trump," and actions are tried on the pleadings. “It would be a terrible comment about Chief Justice Roberts if he was making decisions based on a personal dislike of President Trump,” Bauer observes, “and, of course, the worrisome thing would be if there are disputes related to the election.”. He is a stupid piece of shit and should be humiliated every time he pulls out his stupid lying crap. Nice to know some things never change. Issues of such importance should not be left to US courts, laws or citizens. He was a colossal bore and an idiot then. They want their serfs to stop resisting. That's not ducking and it's not skipping. What stops him? "Can someone do a photoshop of this? It would be finally cleansing, historic justice. None of the secret Star Chamber rulings. Especially the mocking part. Once-conservative Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts has lately crossed to the liberal side of in several legal decisions, and a U.S. senator says it … Pealosi should be ridiculed to tears. So Romney will have to stand up and be the one that moves this farce forward. Roberts not needed because trump no longer in office. "Shall" == "must" == "required"You can not remove someone from office if they aren't in it2: An "Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States" is an appointed office, not an elected one.The claimed purpose of this impeachment is to keep Trump from running for President again. Nor do they rule on whether someone should be removed from office. This issue is specifically mentioned in the Constitution:Constitutional bansExcerpt from Article One, Section 9 of the United States Constitution, prohibiting the passing of bills of attainderThe United States Constitution forbids legislative bills of attainder: in federal law under Article I, Section 9, and in state law under Article I, Section 10. How very Soviet. 2020-01-30 John Roberts will not be silent Wednesday. Not being president, he cannot be tried. His lifetime Secret Service protection? By sending a complete slate of Trump-supporting electors, each of those seven states threw down the gauntlet in a manner never seen in POTUS election history. It would be interesting to know what Roberts thinks about these things, but I can't even tell if Roberts was involved in the decision to leave it to Leahy. In Canada the pm has to have the queen of England's approval. Good. No Trumpkin has presented here a cogent argument either way on the issue. Then I'd guess he'd have standing to challenge the whole charade in Federal court. What the preceding article makes clear is that the Republican caucus in both the House and the Senate is ready to rumble. Maybe that's par of what the anti-Trump Senators really want? ... AP Photo/John Minchillo. So the Chief Justice presides.This is not such a trial, so the VP can preside (no such conflict of interest).Speculations about advisability or propriety are independent of that.The idea though is to destroy Trumpism by completing an aborted ceremony. So no impeachment. (33) P.S. We also know where his body is buried. He must do his duty or he must give a justification for not.Silence is not an option. Biskupic writes that the constitutional text is, "When the President of the United States is impeached, the Chief Justice shall preside," which obscures the argument Roberts-excluders must make. If Presidents can be tried AFTER they leave office and forbidden to be president again, it diminishes the power of the Presidency.BTW, notice that Fraud George bush has said NOTHING. Who am I kidding? The latter itself seems problematic since it permits the Senate to supersede the will of the People should they choose to elect the person to office. Dems offend the nice women of America at their peril. If the Chief Justice is required, then what Leahy is about to do is not a duty. But before you answer I am obligated to explain to you, if the answer isn't the same name for both questions, I wont be visiting the Senate. The whole thing is one page. Shortly before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump, addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C. The third is, assuming the trial is constitutional, must Roberts preside. “And those that are drifting toward the left,” he warns, “seem to be deeply impacted by the latest wind that blows through their brain.”. "Of course that's not the current case, so all your dependent "Ifs" are irrelevant. Maybe that's par of what the anti-Trump Senators really want?Probably, but they don't seem to understand the effect that might have on his supporters.YH is right, they've all gone insane. The simple coherent reading is that Trump can be tried and Roberts must preside. Check out full episodes and video clips of most popular shows online. "So it was up to John Roberts whether he wanted to preside with a president who's no longer sitting, Trump, and he doesn't want to do it. What I have not heard is a single affirmative explanation of how an impeachment of a President, that is not President, could be impeached.We impeach an office holder. I mean, I'm sure I'll hate her too eventually, but right now I'm enjoying how many Depends she's wetting. It's the Senate's ceremony. "Why do so many people think that the Supreme Court is the be all and end all? Tangle is up for four glorious years of litigation, that at least drives the news cycle. Yet, McConnell pompously treats it with great seriousness and acts like the House deliberated and its a great Constitutional moment. This is not just the "Senate's business". Copyright © 2020 GOPUSA | All Rights Reserved. He owned slaves. Okay, they go through with all this nonsense, tossing the clear language of the Constitution. They need to stop, just stop. "The expiration of President Trump's term renders one of those moot, but not both of them. BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said... Rules are made so corrupt democrats can abuse them.You need to get over this obsession with Democrats. – He did really believe in his visions – and in his capabilities too and thus managed to live even through periods in which he almost starved. That is very clear. 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